iwriteaboutfeminism:

During Sunday’s Nerd HQ panel at Comic-Con with the cast of ‘Supernatural,’ an audience member asked if the dynamic on set changed for the male dominated cast on episodes with a female guest star. The responses she got from star Jared Padalecki and panel moderator Aisha Tyler perfectly, and problematically, demonstrated why the show continues to be criticized by fans for its treatment of female and queer characters. 

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Before she could even finish her question, Jared joked about two of his co-stars not really counting as men- “We also have Mark Sheppard and Misha [Collins],” to which Alicia added something to the effect of “things we don’t know about Misha.”  It was a little hard to hear. Jared has purposely misgendered people before to make a “joke” or be demeaning, (one example being a tweet about Justin Bieber). Statements like these are sexist and transphobic and represent the idea of masculinity which ‘Supernatural’ seems to buy into- that only masculine men are real men and that masculinity is defined by what you can’t be (i.e. feminine) rather than what you are.

The questioner rolled her eyes, clearly not amused.

Jared then mentioned his wife, Genevieve Cortese, whom he met during the show’s fourth season when she played the demon Ruby. “Well, we all know what happened to me; I ended up marrying her. So I can’t do that again.”

Obviously not. The rest of his answer is where we start heading off the cliff.

“I don’t think it makes it too different. I think it’s easy in a male-dominated cast to not have to…there are so many shows that deal with romance that there needs to be a show that doesn’t deal with romance. That’s why we have ‘Supernatural,’ to deal with all the other parts of…to deal with the many other facets of human nature and existence, even in a bizarre way. But we don’t have to worry about, ‘Oh, there’s a scene where this-;’ We just kinda make a show about something else.”

So…women on your show could only ever be romantic interests? You don’t mind having zero lead female characters because then you don’t have to worry about getting bogged down by girly romance? Does romance not exist for men in the absence of women? It’s such a strange and dismissive answer.

Over the past nine seasons, there have been several reoccurring female characters whose stories were not about romance, including Abbadon, Ellen, Meg, Pamela, Bella, Charlie, Jody, and Naomi. (Note: Only Jody and Charlie are still alive, and Charlie- our only canonically queer character- is currently in another dimension.)

Speaking of female characters who have been primarily romantic interests, we mainly have Lisa and Amelia, both of whom were ditched by the brothers in order to focus on the family business. So yes, the Winchesters have each yet to have a lasting relationship and the nature of their work is clearly what has gotten in the way.  It seems impossible for either of them to have a relationship at this point that is separate from hunting.

BUT, luckily, men do not need women in order to experience romance! For a long time now, the show’s most significant and popular romantic narrative has been male/male- the relationship between Dean Winchester and the angel Castiel. As a supernatural being, Castiel has been intertwined with the brothers’ work from the moment we met him and he has stuck around, on and off, for six season. The major barrier between Dean and romantic relationships therefore doesn’t apply to Cas.  It is homophobic and biphobic to assume that romance isn’t possible among men, and considering the popularity of the Destiel relationship, it was offensive of Jared to ignore that possibility.

And then Aisha Tyler jumped in and everything went from bad to worse.

“The thing that I feel is so great about ‘Supernatural’ despite the monsters and everything is that it’s a show about the interior relationships of men, the interior lives of men, and it’s very rare that the relationships are emotional, they’re complex, they’re dynamic. And when you’re looking at a show where it’s all about male/female relationships, that’s the focus, but to see these guys that are struggling with their filial relationships and their intermasculine relationships is really unusual on TV and I think the show does that very, very well. And if you like guys, you’re curious about men, or you have a guy in your life, it’s a great show to watch to understand not all men, but these men. These characters I think are really well-written guys.”

Where to begin?

1) Ah yes, the precious, white, cisgender menz, they are so rare on television and often so  two-dimensional.

2) Who needs ladies when you’ve got men with a co-dependent sibling relationship?

3) Are you a lady who likes men? Are you curious about men? Got a man in your life? To understand these delicate creatures, watch this show about men who use misogynistic language!

Are you fucking kidding me?!

If there’s one thing you need to know about ‘Supernatural’ and its fandom, it’s in this quote from a recent article on The Daily Dot. “Most of the constant refrain of criticism stemmed from [Supernatural’s] status as the whitest, manliest, straightest show ever to have inexplicably cultivated a fandom that is its demographic polar opposite.”

News flash: No one watches ‘Supernatural’ to learn about men. The fandom hasn’t carried the show to its 10th season because of its masculinity. Sam and Dean being “manly” is so far down the list of why people watch the show and why so many identify with it in such strong ways that it’s almost laughable.

Most of the frustration fans feel comes from the fact that the people who work on ‘Supernatural’ still don’t seem to understand why the show has the particular audience it does and what that audience actually likes about the show. Without that understanding, they keep making decisions about the characters that keep earning them criticism. ‘Supernatural’ sees itself as an essentially masculine show, and one that feels the need to constantly prove that point. But their focus on masculinity is seriously limiting their possibilities for character development, something essential for a long-running series.  

Fans want to see these characters grow, but when you limit the type of people they interact with so they only see versions of themselves, and when you put restrictions on who is available for romantic storylines and who is not, you run seriously low on options to expand these characters’ world, and therefore their storylines.

karmaplus:

Let’s just say that in the second one, I’m not focusing on his smile.

clairvoyantsam:

So according to Jeremy Carver, these two will be back as a team in Season 10 for a funny yet emotional episode, kinda like a diversion of “The Heat”. If you don’t remember the 1st lady, she was sheriff Donna Hanscum in 9x13 “The Purge”. Also, he said other old characters will be back but he won’t say who they are yet. (x)

okay so i had this rad idea biking home from work when i was listening to music

falloutboy came on and it was fame > infamy and as i was listening to the words i was hit by like, A FULLY FORMED LYRICSTUCK for priest!cas and dean omg i have it all drawn out in my head

for those not in the know, lyricstucks (a term coined from us homestucks) is like, a series of drawings that you follow along to as you listen to a song, so the song would be at the top and you press play and go along the pictures with the lyrics

OKAY SO I KIND OF WANT TO DRAW THIS but holy shit that’s a big project to dump on myself. it’d be so sweet though i love priest!cas shit it is my weakness

rugarru:

What if Dean keeps running, not to avoid Sam or his blade, but because he knows that Sam will follow him.

What if Dean see’s it as a game, let’s see what fucked up shit Sam will do to get me, let’s see his breaking point, how far he’ll go.

It’s this teasing sadistic game of Demon!Dean stringing along Sam until Sam himself no longer has rules or morals in his head just Dean Dean Dean.

And Dean will let Sam catch him every now and then, give him a flicker of hope, just a teasing taste of success, but then he’d beat the shit out of Sam, break a bone, try killing him without real animosity but just to see him squirm. Then scheming the real brutalities and brief torture traps before fleeing again.

It goes from what will he do to what will he let me do

Every time Dean makes it more brutal, more savage, more Hell.

Every time, Sam gets up and follows again.

And instead of the roaming America hunting monsters, Sam roams America hunting his own heart.

castielhellbound:

/FEVERISHLY CONTINUES TO DRAW DEMON!DEAN/ *__*

castielhellbound:

"…That’s right, give in. You knew you would in the end."

so how bout that season 10 trailer

/FEVERISHLY CONTINUES TO DRAW DEMON!DEAN/ *__*

"…That’s right, give in. You knew you would in the end."

so how bout that season 10 trailer